6 Beautiful Mistakes

[jess*]

They are too gorgeous...I wish.How much are they being sold for?

[[[Christine]]]

PM'd you

[saturn]

How much are they?

[[[Christine]]]

R1000 per pup

[Weezie]

?

[Hayley]

Please forgive the post but we have many puppies to home that are of very similar breed. Some pure Malamute. Some pure Husky. Many pure Border Collie. Some Malamute Crosses, Husky Crosses or Border Collie Crosses and there is no way that we would ever consider asking anywhere near such a high price for a "mistake" which is what most of these puppies are because people have not bothered to sterilise their animals. Including sterilisation, deworming, and innoculations the average cost of adoption is R300.00. Please consider letting me help you home your animals. We will ensure that they go to thoroughly checked homes, that each puppy is matched to the right home and will ensure that each puppy is sterilised at 6 months so as to ensure that there are no more "mistakes" from any of the offspring. Please also consider not charging for these puppies considering the huge influx of animals needing homes and that so many face being destroyed because homes cannot be found.

Many thanks for taking my post into consideration,
Hayley - Animal Rescue Coalition

[dinosaur]

Weezie- my thoughts exactly....

[RobnClr]

There is also the cost of Vet Bills, during the mother dogs pregnancy the food she will have to have, vitamins and such, the extra food for puppies etc that I don't think is being taken into account.

Mistakes or not they are very cute and hope you find some excellent homes for them. ;D

[Hayley]

Robyn all of that is being taken into account. As a welfare organisation we know only too well what the coats entail. However when we make a mistake we should take responsibility which I am sure Christine will do. Sterilizing animals is a vital part to stopping the huge problem worldwide of unwanted animals. There are 650 million dogs in the world. Of those 450 million are homeless, street dogs or ones who sit in shelters hoping to be adopted before being euthinazed. Many once someone's pet or a "mistake" or my dogs so wonderful I want her to have puppies that they thought would go to a good home. We have to realize just what a disaster our canine friends are in and help them by starting at home. My offer to help means that at least these pups will go to a home where they will be cared for and won't land up unsterilised adding to the problem or one of the millions of unlucky ones. Mistakes happen. It's how we handle them that matters most when lives are at stake.

[[[Christine]]]

Thanks Robyn!

Hayley I fully support and agree with you. It’s amazing what you are doing! :]

The 'mistake' occurred just before we could sterilize our puppy as we were away on holiday and couldn’t take him with (we had friends house sit our pets) and he liked our old Border collie way too much. She NEVER liked any other boy-doggies and we never had to sterilize her as the vet didn’t think it necessary.

Our Border collie, being older and fragile and the dad huge, had to go in after-hours to the vet to have the pups delivered with special care. This cost us a FORTUNE. We also only give them vet food and extra supplements to ensure their health. If we ask R1000 for them we will not at all even balance the expenses out. Also we just want our pups to go to a good home and if you can offer that we will of course drop the price. I also think that if you ask ths much for a dog you indirectly determine the house to which the pup is going to.

My dad and I agreed on the R1000 as we saw many other cross breeds going for that price (and even higher) and many folk at the sledding club mentioned they had bought their dogs (Malamute or Husky crosses) for that price and that the mushers choose crosses above purebreds due to the better temperaments.

We just wanted to try and get some of the vet bills covered, but this was quite stupid as we cannot try and let yet another mistake (the delivery) increase the value of cross-breed pups.

I chatted to my dad as I was quite upset about the (understandable) reaction from you guys and we have now brought down the price. All we want is that the pups go to great homes where they will be loved.

[saturn]

Would love one but unfortunately cant afford R1000 for a puppy, good luck finding wonderful homes for them!!

[qse]

My opinion is that whatever price you ask is your business. It is not for other people to decide what you think your pups are worth. People who don't agree with the price will simply not buy the pups, and those people who do think its a good price will. (This works the same way with horses - the laws of supply and demand).

However, I am glad that you are negotiable based on good homes; that might make it easier to find homes for the pups. They are adorable and if I didn't already have the maximum number of canines I can handle, I might have considered one myself.

[~*MRS BONES*~]

Well said QSE, I completely agree!

Good Luck with finding them good homes, wish I could have another dog

[Hayley]

Thanks for being so understanding. If you can send me some photo's, number of pups, male/females and age, I will get them out to the relevant people ASAP and we can get your puppies homed to great homes ASAP. Please mail me on [e-mail]. Many thanks.

[Tails]

Jul 20, 2009 11:00:43 GMT -2 [[Christine]] said:

She NEVER liked any other boy-doggies and we never had to sterilize her as the vet didn’t think it necessary.

Um...sounds like an odd thing for a vet to say?

And it doesnt necessarily take the female being interested for it to happen. The female has little choice in the matter. It just helps if she's interested.

[qse]

Tails that is not true at all. A female dog that is not interested in a certain male, will not allow the cover to take place. We had a pedigree spaniel that my mom wanted to start a stud with. This spaniel refused all the pedigree spaniel males she was presented with. No covers took place. She then fell in love with the neighbours poodle and managed to get covered by him, thus ending the stud idea right there.

[Viking]

It's sad that your poor older dog had to undergo such a traumatic experience....Poor thing.

My thoughts on the matter are that these are still cross breed dogs - no matter what breeds are involved - and there should be no charge. I can understand paying for pure bred dogs because they are registered and all, but to be honest, this bothers me a bit.

There are more than enough "braks" out there at rescue organisations looking for forever homes - we need to support them and encourage responsible dog breeding and sterilizations.

These are merely my thoughts, as a dog owner of pure bred and mixed breed dogs.

Good luck in finding them homes.

[saxon]

Q, an aggressive enough male will be able to force-mate a B!tch, no matter how much resistance she might put up. Moreover, it is very easy to miscalculate a B!tch's "receptive time", especially a young B!tch's, and to take her to the male too early - you may well find that if you'd taken her to the male before the poodle got to her, she would have stood. This is why most breeders will leave their bitch with the male for a few days, usually a week or so, before removing her.

I agree with Tails, I've never heard of a vet saying it was "unnecessary" to spay a non-breeding B!tch. It is generally considered far safer for a B!tch to be spayed, as early as possible, because you don't run the risk of ovarian, cervical or uterine cancer.

Whilst I agree that you are perfectly entitled to charge whatever you deem appropriate for your puppies, just be careful that you don't price yourself into a position where they are harder to move. Puppies of around six to eight weeks are far easier to sell than ones of twelve weeks or older.

I trust that you will be sterilising your male dog, if your B!tch is now too old to spay, in order to prevent any further "mistakes"?

[jess*]

Christine what are you asking for the pups now?