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Post by Viking on May 20, 2008 8:30:40 GMT -2
That's so sad, yet so true Misty!!!! Breaks my heart when people just continue to randomly breed! :-(
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Post by ♥*`~Ana~`* ♥ on May 20, 2008 8:48:56 GMT -2
Okay Guys well i understand that you are concerned about the dog. Shooting the messenger is not going to help you, She was asked to advertise for her step father. I highly doubt she has any say in the breeding or showing of the dog. If you really are that concerned about it then i suggest you take it up with her step father.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 8:52:34 GMT -2
we dont want to breed for money. think he is a stunning dog with great bloodlines and will add to the breed. i will be checking all the things out now that you guys have made it clear what is needed.~ thanks
to be hoenest no one had before today and yesterday explained what is needed to me.
dont want to breed ourselves just use him as a stud dog!
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 9:32:44 GMT -2
I have phoned the GSD fedaration of south africa and ask for some guidance
The lady i spoke to couldnt give me much info as they were "running blind", their server was down. i told her what we have ect and she confirmed that my dad has breeding rights. she said she will get back to me about the other info (she took our number) i took aces file and i dont see a report for HD or DNA so i will have him x rayed and tested before the end of the month. she said our vet can take the x rays however it needs to be graded by this or that person (she said ill find that info on the web site) our vet can take the dna tests as well!
will wait till she gets back to me to see where to go from here
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 9:34:30 GMT -2
oh i have also applied to become a member (family membership)
just have to send the papers in have filled them out
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Post by misty on May 20, 2008 9:47:04 GMT -2
Tara the x-rays need to be done by Dr Giliomee in Stellenbosch - he is the only one who actually knows how to take them correctly and if just any vet takes them and they are less than perfect he could be given the wrong grading which may be detrimental. Dr Giliomee will then send them on to Dr Kirberger in Pretoria who is the only person in SA who can do the grading.
Dr Giliomee has the same office number as Rachel Shuttlwerth in case you still have it.
Befor having the x-rays done, just ask about the fact that his legs were damaged when driven over - it may mean they cannot get meaningful x-rays and you would be wasting money.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 9:55:03 GMT -2
will find out thanks alot misty!
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Post by Dodabby on May 20, 2008 10:03:25 GMT -2
Misty is right, taking hip and elbow xrays is a very precise and delicate xray to take. You dont just lie the dog down and take an xray, they dog has to be placed in a very specific way and alignment that not 'any' vet can do.
And yes, if your vet really does know how to take the xrays, he may take them, but he cannot do the grading - sorry if i was unclear on this in the beginning. They have to be sent off, at a fee, to be graded and the scoring done.
Either way, kudos to you Tara for taking the time out to find out what is needed before going ahead willy nilly and breeding the dog.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 10:27:09 GMT -2
yes the lady explained to me that it needs to be sent of to be gradded.
i have phoned Dr Giliomee find out everything about it.
(will phone again when he is there to make an appointment he was out reseptionist was there) thank you for explaining what all needs to be done. will now take the exact steps.
who knows maybe the dog isnt fit for breeding.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 10:29:53 GMT -2
another thing
can they fail a dog on temprament if he doesnt like being picked up?
he is the sweetest thing ont and loves being cuddled/loved. can stick your fingers in his ears with no probs just doesnt like being picked up
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Post by misty on May 20, 2008 10:47:17 GMT -2
Why on earth would you be wanting to pick the poor dog up, he isnt a little lap dog so of course he doesnt like it - you may hurt him if you dont do it 100% completely right and that may also be what he doesnt like.
Temprament problems - biting if you interfere when he is eating, attacking other dogs, how he reacts when out on walks, - there are all sorts of tests they do - I dont have them all listed right now.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on May 20, 2008 13:39:30 GMT -2
oh ok thanks misty!
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Post by Robyn on May 21, 2008 5:33:21 GMT -2
Don't they do a gun test as well? On an aside, it grates my cheese & carrots when people pick up puppys or dogs & don't support their back end/hind legs. This poor animal dangling in mid-air, having it's stomach squashed. Gggrrrrrr  |
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Post by Viking on May 21, 2008 6:27:29 GMT -2
Well done Tara for doing all this research and getting the info needed! Best of luck with your boy!
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Post by Dodabby on May 21, 2008 7:07:54 GMT -2
To pick up a dog correctly is to hold him under his chest with one arm (arm, not hand), and your other ARM (NOT HAND) wrapped about his hind legs under his bum. Dont pick up a dog around the rib cage area or any other way for that matter.
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Post by michele on May 25, 2008 11:04:15 GMT -2
As far as I know, a GSD is the same as an alsation. I've read that they were called GSD's until the first world war, when the english and french wanted to use them, but didn't want to use the dog with the enemy's name, so called them Alsations.
What most people call an Alsation is built along the american-type look: small bone structure with a sloping back, which is often seen in the show ring.
What most people consider to be a german shepherd is the german-type dog: a big square build.
They are they same breed. This is the same as border collies: the working type looks different from the show-type.
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Post by ♥*`~Ana~`* ♥ on May 25, 2008 12:45:36 GMT -2
sorry to hi-jack thread but michele whats the difference for the boarder collies? I have one myself and she is alot bigger than all the ones i have seen. She's set very wide.
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