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Post by michy on Apr 10, 2007 6:49:03 GMT -2
Completely off the topic but I was in Gansbaai this weekend  By the way, barefoot horses should ideally be trimmed about once a month not 2 months. |
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Post by Noddy on Apr 10, 2007 7:14:06 GMT -2
Hey Michy I was in Pringle Bay and took a drive through to hermanus and went riding at Arabella Equestrian Estate
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Post by ~Berna~ on Apr 18, 2007 11:30:08 GMT -2
Michy..by walking and being ridden barefoot the horses trim their own feet! When the farrier comes he only uses the rasp, cause their feet don't need much trimming, cause they "trim" it themselfs by walking on it!!
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Post by misty on Apr 18, 2007 11:47:50 GMT -2
Berna I think you are somewhat wrong on that - you mean in their wild, natural habitat. No horses live that way these days who are ridden regularly. The fact that the farrier only uses a rasp is not because they trim their feet themselves.
Where do you get all your information?
My horses differ greatly one from the other and in fact I have one who can be trimmed every 4 weeks, one every 6 weeks and one every 2 months. Every horse is different.
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Post by ~Cadence~ on Apr 18, 2007 12:00:42 GMT -2
where i ride they are going to start taking in peopel as soon as their indoor is finished as well as the other arenas
it will include feed,lunging of horses,grooming of horses turnign out and bringing in of horses
they will have 1 60x20m indoor areana as well as 3 other out side arenas 40x20m
there is places for out rides as well
paddocks are 1ha and its shared between 2 horses
price is from R2000-R3000 def worth it id say!!
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Post by ~Berna~ on Apr 18, 2007 12:09:44 GMT -2
Misty in our camps/paddocks there are lots of hard ground, rocks ect. that plays a part in trimming the horses hoofs! We ride on hard, rocky areas and that also plays a part. The horses feet gets soaked once a week and that makes it eaven softer! Does this make sence..but if you feel diferent about this I would love to hear what you have to say, maby I can learn something new! |
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Post by misty on Apr 18, 2007 14:53:23 GMT -2
Berna the problem is they dont walk around as much as a horse in the wild, which is where their hooves would get naturally trimmed. Because we limit the space available (in the wild they would cover 30 or more km's per day) we also limit the amount of trimming which can happen. We also dont give them the range of terrain they would have in the wild and also not the herbs and type of grazing - in fact if you consider all of this, we dont give them much in comparison.
Yes the hard ground is a help, but it just isnt the same. Believe me I know, we live in Firlands at the foot of Sir Lowry's pass and we officially grow all the rocks and stones for the whole Cape Peninsula, but it is not enough to naturally wear their feet. We have practical examples of this - it can actually be detrimental to their hooves rather than good.
Sorry this has been OTT, mods - will move if you want me to.
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Post by ~Berna~ on Apr 18, 2007 18:34:57 GMT -2
I never thought about it so deeply..i totaly agree with you! But one way or the other our horses feet are always trimmed. The farrier only has 2 come 2 sort out kracks and shape the hoofs!
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Post by Rigatona on Apr 19, 2007 7:13:30 GMT -2
*shock* Misty it's YOUR fault we have so much sand!! All that rock growing and you picked US to dump the left over sand at! THANKS hey! LMAO
We officially grow beach type sand stuff! eheheheheh
On topic - we pay a range. R1150 to R1300 (full livery) depends on horse requirements. I expect we'll go up again this October with feed and roughage costing what it does.
It seems to be the month for stabling increases hehehe. Feet cost me extra R130 and supplements I provide at my cost - pack them measured out and yard owner feeds daily for me at no extra cost.
Stabling there means two meals a day with extras if horse requires it - it's like Brunch usually fed at about 10h30. North gets extras. He also gets extra in his two meals - this has not incurred extra cost to me (just a fizzier horse that I had to contend with and energy we had to work through to get back to where we are now).
I get a stable & a paddock - individual (ie paddock per horse) however they're right next to one another so they have company all day. Unfortunately sand is a pain and we certainly don't have 5 star facilities but they do the job and North is happy where he is.
24/7 supervision as well and those women love the horses dearly.
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Post by rollercoaster on Apr 28, 2007 9:29:27 GMT -2
My horse is staying on a private farm with two other horses that belong to the owner. I am paying R800 a month. My mare has a nice stable, we have a fantastic sand dressage arena and horses are turned out in big green paddocks where they have plenty place to run around and play. Price includes hay but I pay extra for hard feed and minerals. How does it work when food is included in the price  ? We have only three horses on the farm, but all three of them are on completely different diets. My mare gets very little hard food because she has a tendency to get fat. The TB, well they always eat a lot and an old Arab is getting special food for old boys. The same goes with minerals, all three get different stuff. So, is it fair to include feed in the price of livery?  |
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Post by Cin on May 14, 2007 9:30:58 GMT -2
I pay R1450 a month excl. farrier and vet...
Stabling include 3 meals a day, roughage, big clean stable, big paddocks, lunge arena, sand arena and we have a dressage arena on its way... nice outrides... Horses are brought in for lunch and taken out again and brought in again at 4 for supper…
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Post by *~Lee~* on Jul 9, 2007 7:06:19 GMT -2
arte at a stable yard close to me in constantia you pay R5000pm it includes huge grass paddocks exellent grooming and care, lunge arena, 3 dressage arenas a stunning jumping arena, gorgeous outrides, all feed (hard feed roughage, supplements, etc...) shavings, everything exept farrier and vet which i know are really expesive ontop but this yard is stunning, the care the horses get there is really really good, and they always look a bit to fat and their coats are amazing, there socks look like they have been omoed everynight...... Laura what yard is that??? |
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Post by *~Lee~* on Jul 9, 2007 8:21:49 GMT -2
what yard is this? please PM me!!!
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Post by arte on Jul 9, 2007 13:54:31 GMT -2
lee you leaving?lol
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Post by *~Lee~* on Jul 9, 2007 19:14:03 GMT -2
no sorry u cant get rid of me that fast! ur loss!
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Post by ~Ginger~ on Jul 12, 2007 9:39:58 GMT -2
I currently pay around R2000 - R2500 p/month
that includes
3 meals a day
large grassy paddocks
big and comfortable stables
lunging ring
Vet and Farrier costs as well as other medical costs (dewormers etc) is extra
At the beginning of the year i paid more for Anija because she were also trained proffesionally but then i neednt pay for Azale as she was still a weee little baby
The owner of the studfarm treats all the visiting horses there as his own, I never have to ask for this or that i just get the account at the end of the month with whatever is extra on it (like when she's dewormed, or when he paid for the registration of my foal and the costs for DNA tests at Onderstepoort and all of that just came onto my account, or when he fetched Zina on behalf of me the transport costs came onto my account and i just pay everything soon as i get it)
I am very happy with where my horses are kept now, i really cant complain about anything and it is much less hassle for a student life as i dont constantly have to call from Stellenbosch to say they need to be dewormed on this and this date or get AHS injections then and there and so on (i still need to do this regarding Illusion and Trufa though) I can rest assure that they are always in a healthy state, dewormed regularly and if something goes wrong the vet will be called probably even before i'm called (showing that the horses' wellfare is rated, by the owner of the yard, above the owner's willingness of care Lol and i prefer it that way)
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Post by (~JEMMA~) on Jul 12, 2007 11:39:02 GMT -2
ec,whats the arabella estate like? i drove past there on tuesday.
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Post by *KaRiWaRi* on Jul 15, 2007 14:14:02 GMT -2
Jemma, I went for an outride on the Arabella estate in December when we were on holiday - it's stunning! We rode through forests, next to a lake, on the beach, in the bush and we even saw wild horses! Was quite interesting when the wild stallion realised the mare I was riding was in heat...
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Post by *KaRiWaRi* on Jul 15, 2007 14:21:33 GMT -2
I pay R2400 a month for stabling, excl. vet, farrier and vacs. We have a 70X30m sand arena, lunge arena, grass paddocks, and you can go on great outrides IF your horse is good in traffic. Feed is included and the horses get groomed once a day. I think the price is very reasonable because our yard owner is very knowledgeable and I know my horse is in excellent hands.
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Post by ~Berna~ on Jul 15, 2007 14:58:24 GMT -2
Jemma they have a website! Just google it!
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